Now THAT is FUNNY (even if it wasn’t intended to be). Fortunately a recent update to the game by Cryptic provided the perfect solution to your woes – Federation vs. Federation space combat. Klingons getting you down? Does it seem like you can’t win for losing? Fight other Federation ships in space a combat exercise (thats how Cryptic explains Federations vs. Federation). Problem solved! You never have to fight Klingons again! (we don’t)

There are many approaches to balance in pvp, and with the way they have the game mechanics set now there is little doubt that the only approach left is to make one class stronger than another and weaker against others. For example, the Star Trek lore necessitates birds of prey having cloaking ability. Right now, however, you can grow old in a match while Klingons try and outwait you. The only way to counter the problem is to give one side a cloak detection ability (“Captain they’re venting tachyon particles”).

It has been my experience that the team members with zeros are usually the players who’ve zoned into the combat as it ended. This happens to me all the time. It looks to me like the start of the scenario began 2 Klinks vs 3 Feds with another 2 able to zone in before the lock and able to score some damage before the end. By then the damage was done.

Klingons have nothing … I repeat NOTHING … to do in Star Trek BUT PVP. That is how they level their characters. When you spend that much time doing something Federation characters don’t have to do and likely don’t do very often, you are going to have groups of people who are able to work together and do some damage. It’s no different than running 2 or 3 full groups in Warhammer Online only to get destroyed by a single talented group.

I have experienced PVP from both sides and I will say that I have won playing on the Fed side far more often than I do on the Klingon side. It’s my experience that shields are far tougher on the Federation ships, the weapons are as strong and when you work together as a team that usually outnumbers the Klingons every match, you will find you win more often than you lose.

I’ve been on that losing side in its battle to survive. I have been a part of a 5 man killing team laying waste together as a team to target a single Federation ship together only to have it survive, healed and then turn on us with their team to destroy us all one by one.

If Cryptic wanted tactics in STO PVP they wouldn’t have created a bunch of mini map scenarios in which everyone sits in the middle and shoots one another in the face at point blank range. I would rather an entire PVP centric sector in say … the Neutral Zone (which by the way, Cryptic has said in the past in various news articles across the web is where PVP was going to occur … far from PVE) where players can complete PVP quests and resource gathering and have that ability for some open field battles. I don’t mean a place for ganking PVE players so those haters out there can just stop right there. I mean a place where you enter to PVP with meaning. No unjust rewards PVE players feel left out on, just a good ole fashioned “LOW SEC” area in space.

I understand your frustration as in that battle it can be made to appear the Klingons were unstoppable, but in the battle to just keep PVP around amongst all the PVE player hatred I see on the boards, posts like these just fan the flames.

I for one would like to see an average of winnings in PVP. One poorly played PVP match score card hardly depicts proof of a normal PVP episode in Star Trek Online. I am sorry you had a bad time, but there are plenty of people left in the game who still enjoy it. They are all over the boards fighting to keep PVP from being kicked from the server by PVE friendly foes and the fight continues for some additional PVP content most PVE players feel is a waste of resources for a portion of the game they do not want to exist.

Here is a 197 post thread on the official forums where you can see the battle between PVP and PVE gamers is waging. There are more threads like this one all over the boards.

http://forums.startrekonline.com/showthread.php?t=117774

Frustration aside, help PVP survive and get fixed. Provide some positive feedback, some potential fixes and stop with the hate. It’s already hard enough to have an educated discussion on those boards without having people point to articles like this one as proof and point in their arguments.

I haven’t played Global Agenda. I don’t know if anyone else who writes here or helps in the back ground has.

Julie

I haven’t played Global Agenda. I don’t know if anyone else who writes here or helps in the back ground has.

Julie

Are you surprised, though? Cryptic’s PvP has always been abysmal. It was utter garbage in Champs Online. As STO is nothing more than a Star Trek skinned version of Champs Online, were you expecting better? PvP is just not Cyptic’s forte… or, perhaps more accurately, not just “not a forte”, but something that they simply can’t manage to do with even a hint of competence.

It would be like expecting Global Agenda to have good PvE